And these girls are inviting us out. I did have guilt about that. Facts will show law enforcement was aware that they did not have a case. Around 2 a.m., party-goer Tim Davis told Smart that she could not spend the night passed out on the party houses front lawn because it was too cold. Chris Lambert's podcast caught the attention of millions of listeners and sparked new interest in the decades-old unsolved case of Kristin Smart. But to fully understand Chris Lambert's contribution, you have to go back to the beginning. AKA: Susan Flores, Sue P Flores. ", Although suspicion surrounded Flores almost from the beginning, any hopes for an arrest were dashed in May 1997 when then-Sheriff Ed Williams made an admission to the San Luis Obispo Telegraph: "We need Paul Flores to tell us what happened to Kristin Smart so absent something from Mr. Flores, I don't see us completing this case.". And it was only 250 miles from Stockton, California, where she grew up with Lindsey and their brother Matt. Chris Lambert: He told those friends he just woke up with the black eye. James Murphy: To see them in custody was a feeling of great joy for me. Ruben Flores, 80, has been booked on an accessory charge and is being held on $250,000 bail. I don't think she went back to her dorm at all. The woman, whom we'll call Jane, believes she was roofied, raped, and discarded by Paul Flores and his nameless friend when she was a 15-year-old high-school sophomore in 1994. And there are more horrifying allegations about what may have happened to Kristin after she was last seen with Paul Flores. Smart, a native of Stockton, was nearing the end of her. My heart dropped, she said. Often, Sarah would be at one party or another and there was Flores. Chris Lambert spoke with some women who knew Flores back then. PODCAST EPISODE 2 | WOMAN #1: I wasn't surprised, but there's also that shock value of kind of "oh my god, I knew it! A judge on March 30 ruled that the trial would be moved out of San Luis . Denise Pearce: The investigation was completely botched by the campus police. Witnesses said she didnt smell like alcohol, but she quickly became so incapacitated that she passed out face-down on the houses front lawn. Flores replies that he was just fibbing. I dont know of any lying Ive done. But the investigation is ongoing. Meanwhile, three other women told The Daily Beast that Flores sexually assaulted them after Janes assault and Smarts disappearance. Ruben's attorney, Harold Mesick, dismissed the evidence against his client as "so minimal as to shock the conscience.". DAN DOW [press conference]: It is alleged that Mr. Flores caused the death of Kristen Smart while in the commission of or attempted rape. Chris Lambert: Kristin's father would come down and hike every trail he could find on the Central Coast. In October 2022, Paul Flores, the man long suspected in her disappearance, was found guilty of murder. Chris Lambert: I didn't know the scale. And I was screaming. After the four students had walked about halfway back to the dorms, Paul Flores told Davis and Anderson, Dont worry I got her, Ill take her from here, according to prosecutors. What happens next? Jonathan Vigliotti: How did you know she hadn't been back? James Murphy: There has been no other suspect. Me, my sister, my cousinPaul has no limits, she said, requesting anonymity. Then, in 2011, Ian Parkinson was elected sheriff. Paul Flores - Cal Poly student and Food Science major, Paul Flores lived on campus in room #128 of Santa Lucia Hall Dormitory. I got in his face, the ex-boyfriend, who requested anonymity, told The Daily Beast. James Murphy: They brought in the first dog and they'd had the dog go through the dorms. JAMES MURPHY: What is your present residence address? She was pushing herself out of her comfort zone. One late night at a Hermosa Beach bar Flores courted a 21-year-old student whom well call Laura. To think that you're going to finally get some resolution, and then it doesn't happen the way it's supposed to. But remarkably, the same thing happened with three more dogs. In the meantime, Paul Flores moved to Southern California, where he bounced from job to job. and I was like, "Noooo.". That warrant allowed them to dig up the backyard, but deputies chose not to excavate. As of this date, Paul is single. That's when the campus police finally handed the investigation over to The San Luis Obispo Sheriff's Office but they did not find Kristin. JAMES MURPHY: Has your son ever told you that he did not kill Kristin Smart? Had Flores been caught and convicted of his alleged sexual assault in 1994, perhaps Smart would still be alive. I never realized its the same guy that harassed [Sarah], he said. Chris Lambert: It's mostly frat guys from the Kappa Chi fraternity. Lambert began looking into what happened to Kristin, collecting articles and documents, chasing down leads and tracking down anyone with information. The murder trial began on Monday with opening statements from prosecutors and Flores defense attorney. In June of 1996, the San Luis Obispo County Sheriffs Office brought in four cadaver dogs to sniff dorms on campus. SHERIFF IAN PARKINSON [to reporters]: It's been a puzzle and it's a very slow process to find each of those little pieces some of that information came to light through the podcast many of you are familiar with. Neither the ex-boyfriend nor Sarah saw Flores again until they read The Daily Beast story on Kristin Smarts disappearance, where Floress mugshot appeared. Like what may have been discovered in March 2021 when investigators searched Ruben Flores' house using cadaver dogs and ground penetrating radar. He invoked the Fifth Amendment 27 times. They believe they can prove Paul Flores is responsible for the disappearance of Kristin Smart. They asked him not to use their names: PODCAST EPISODE 2 | WOMAN #1: Well his nickname was "Scary Paul.". As they soon learned, she had ended up at a party at an off-campus house. He says they are Ruben's ex-wife Susan and her boyfriend. PODCAST EPISODE 3 | MARY LASSITER: It was like a red thing and it was like a smudge-like fingerprinted look on the back, just red, like maroon, like old looking and the smudge that it was like half a fingerprint. Since Parkinson came on the scene, investigators have dug up hillsides; searched the homes and properties of all the Flores'; collected evidence; seized Paul Flores' computers; monitored his cell phone and text messages, and found new witnesses -- some with the help of Chris Lambert. I dont like to talk about it to even him, she said. Chris Lambert: And he says he got a black eye playing basketball with his friends. Paul would try to get Kristins attention and she was too nice to tell him off. Flores is charged with murdering Smart as he attempted to rape her in his dorm room. 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. Chris Lambert: Kristin became incredibly intoxicated, whether she was drugged or whether she just had a lot to drink in a short amount of time She ends up passed out on the lawn next door. It might be helpful to the investigation.. After they broke up, Laura did a little sleuthing and discovered her ex-boyfriend was accused in Smarts vanishing. And according to that probation report, "dozens of women have recounted Paul Flores' sexual assaults and predatory behavior that document his 25 years as a serial rapist." Denise Pearce: The phone call never comes. . It wasn't until Kristin's roommate returned to their dorm room, that Margarita realized Kristin never came home. Jane said she kept this secret for yearseven from her husband. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. In one of Paul's police interviews he mentioned that he wanted to be let out of the interview because he needed to help clean up concrete at his mom's house So, what was being done in Susan Flores's backyard in the weeks after Kristin went missing? But it's Susan Flores's concrete backyard that initially received a lot of attention. most importantly they wanna find their daughter. They were after Paul Flores for an outstanding DUI warrant. Once the dogs were let inside the room, they alerted to a corner of Flores bed mattress. Meanwhile, the FBI, who recently excavated earth at Cal Poly to look for Smarts remains, referred comment to the sheriffs office. Ermelinda Flores' property in Washington state has been searched by investigators in February 2020. were in the room exactly where she had left them. Jonathan Vigliotti | CBS News correspondent: You wanted to go home, and you were trying to find a way to break it to your friend. Ruben lived here with his wife, Susan, and their children, Ermelinda and Paul. Ann-Marie Christian: became friends with Kristin in elementary school. When Kristin Smart disappeared, Paul Flores's parents Susan and Ruben were separated and living apart. James Murphy: They're interested in seeing Paul Flores get convicted and Ruben Flores get held accountable. The dogs were trained and certified to detect human remains. Ann-Marie Christian: She was who she was because of her parents, for sure. In March 2021, the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Office served a search warrant at the Arroyo Grande home of Ruben Flores. When Anderson looked back one last time at Flores and Smart, she saw that he was leading Smart toward his dorm, Santa Lucia Hall, not Muir Hall, the prosecutor told the jury. Monterey County Weekly photographer Daniel Dreifuss shot these photos during yesterday's opening statements.#KristinSmart pic.twitter.com/Qlanj3fKK6. When The Daily Beast tracked Flores down outside his home last month, he didnt mount much of a defense. You can go." James Murphy: There's no way to get evidence back once you've lost it. First published on November 27, 2020 / 8:14 AM. "48 Hours" contributor Jonathan Vigliotti takes viewers inside the popular podcast and haunting case in "The Disappearance of Kristin Smart.". We just, "do you know anything about it". When buying cowboy boots, there are a few aspects to consider, such as how far up they go on your legs and their design. They also did not focus on Paul Flores immediately, waiting six days to formally interview him. The Smarts say they tried to file a missing person's report with the local police but were told it was too early, and the FBI told them Cal Poly police were in charge. Smart appeared to be under the influence of alcohol on Friday night. PODCAST EPISODE 4: And he had like a butter knife and he like held it to my neck. He believes that meant "the batteries went dead and that the object that was beeping hadn't been there very long.". Critics called. FBI via AP, File. But Paul Flores remained behind bars help without bail. The only thing that she remembered next was being dragged in the barely lit street by her alleged rapist on one arm and his pal on the other. Back then, Jane remembered Flores pulling up to her on multiple occasions behind the wheel of a green pickup truck. And Murphy and Sinclair believe they can prove it. Paul Flores escorted Smart back to her dorm after an off-campus party. Chris Lambert: The only thing he would confirm on tape is that his name is Paul Flores. Chris Lambert was just 8 years old when Kristin Smart vanished on her way home from a college party in San Luis Obispo, California. Dave Minsky,. Acerca; Prensa; James Murphy: I'd love to do anything to end their suffering. Flores claimed he walked Smart to her dorm at Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo on May 25, 1996 after a night of binge drinking. It had been the focus of widespread speculation for more than two decades especially her planter boxes. putting murder on the lawsuit was sending a message to Paul Flores and his family, that we believe that he killed Kristin and that we're coming for him. The living room had a TV and one sofa and the floor was white, she said. PODCAST EPISODE 2 [LAMBERT READING REPORT] Smart does not have any close friends at Cal Poly. They got to the parking lot of an apartment complex. Flores said he suffered the black eye during a basketball game he played with friends in Arroyo Grande on Monday. He wouldn't answer a single thing. Im fine. They didn't look at the Flores family's vehicles. Please enter valid email address to continue. PODCAST EPISODE 4: At 8 a.m. on June 19th, 2000, a team of sheriff's investigators knocks on the front door of Susan Flores's East Branch Street home. Kristin Smart went missing from Cal Poly in 1996. More critical evidence was seized when investigators used ground-penetratingly radar that found a grave where Smarts body was once buried in the Flores familys backyard, according to prosecutors. San Luis Obispo County Sheriff deputies arrested Paul Flores, the primary suspect in the disappearance of Kristin Smart, and his father, Ruben Flores, at separate locations Tuesday morning. Once Jane was admitted her story seemed to fall on deaf ears. When they showed up, it was Paul Flores. First, he told detectives that Smart was having difficulty walking on her own. Deputies seized a mattress cover from the bed with a blood stain. And very chilling. One of them was Paul Flores, who, to this day, Kristin's family believes abducted and likely killed her. Its not a lie. Flores wasn't talking. But one of those friends told police Flores already had the black eye when he arrived. And that's what I've been doing for a long, long time, along with a lot of other people. PAUL FLORES: On the advice of my attorney, I refuse to answer that question based on the fifth amendment of the United States Constitution. We both were kids at the same school and so I felt comfortable. The accusations didnt stop with classmates: Flores allegedly couldnt restrain himself around his own kin. Jonathan Vigliotti: What toll over time did this have on your parents? Jonathan Vigliotti: And that phone call never comes. He was the last person seen with her. Mary Lassiter says the earring she found in the driveway matched the necklace Kristin Smart is seen wearing on this billboard. Podcaster Chris Lambert says that after 24 years, "I think it's time [for Flores] to talk." James Murphy: And it says wrongful death and then I put murder. Davis was helping Smart get up to her feet with Anderson when Flores suddenly appeared out from the darkness, Peuvrelle said. School was over, so campus police found an empty room that had been sanitized by the university's cleaning crew. They had become close friends despite their differences. The National Read Across America Day takes place every year on March 2, Geisels birthday. Chris Lambert: At that point I don't think they had ever dealt with a missing person, a possibly murdered person. Most students had taken off but Kristin had stayed on campus. Chris Lambert: They did a significant amount of digging underneath the house. In fact, Cheryl Anderson, who trusted Flores to walk Kristin back to her dorm alone, told police that her friends called him "Chester the molester," because he was known for groping girls. but I knew that I could try to do a small part. Just days after taking over the investigation, the San Luis Obispo Sheriff's Office brought several dogs trained to detect human remains, to the Cal Poly dorms. But he entreated each woman who came forward to tell their story to The Daily Beast to reach out to his department. It would be three more years before the property was searched again. The two girls walked to an area off campus where there were fraternities, sororities and residential housing for students. Another frustration for the Smarts: at the time Kristin disappeared, investigators weren't aware that Paul Flores's parents were separated and living apart. Later, he told detectives that Smart was walking just fine and returned to her dorm while he returned to his dorm. Because of the statute of limitations, Dow says, Paul Flores can't be charged with rape. And there were those nonstop tales of Flores being touchy-feely with her friends. They were meant for Susan Flores asking her to cooperate with police and have her son come forward. Even more difficult to understand was why they waited two months to search the family home where Paul Flores was living with his father, Ruben. Chris Lambert: It's hard to take too much credit But I was one piece of the puzzle that helped to make this all come together when it did. Paul Flores was lying through his teeth to law enforcement, Peuvrelle told the jury. You wouldn't let any of your friends be drunk around him. She has not been charged with any crimes in connection with the case. She left them only after he promised to take Kristin back to her dorm. I dont like to talk about that day.. Kristin's mother, Denise Smart, spent Memorial Day weekend at a swim meet with her two younger kids. Chris Lambert: They didn't bring cadaver dogs with them. The Smart's attorney James Murphy, and his wife and office manager Garin Sinclair, have had Kristin's billboard in their front yard since late 1997. Denise Pearce: Kristin hasn't come home And we're not sure where she is We don't know anything. By the time Cal Poly police began investigating, Kristin had been gone for four days. What happened in the privacy of his room that night? Peuvrelle asked the jury. Ermelinda Flores' property in Washington state has been searched by investigators in February 2020. He was writing your name like 150 times on a piece of paper and he kept circling it., High school boys are weird anyway, Jane thought at the time. Sanger said the backyard grave was not at grave at all, and no human blood, hair, or bones were found in it. He was staring at my face looking at me and he was enjoying himself.. Bodega en Renta de $65.000 , 3 baos, 1100 m2 en Arroyo de Las Flores, Jalisco ID 26114512. Sheriff Ian Parkinson was able to confirm that forensic physical evidence that authorities believe is linked to Kristin was located at, at least two homes. Nineteen-year-old Kristin Smart disappeared Memorial Day weekend of 1996. The lawsuit claims they were moving Kristin's remains. They might have found evidence in those vehicles. Authorities made clear that they plan to use Flores' alleged predatory behavior against him. Chris Lambert, who worked as a CBS News consultant, pieced together what he learned from people who were there that night. D.A. Also known as Melinda E Flores. The Lassisters say soon after, strange postcards began showing up in their mailbox. People who were there have said she was intoxicated. Jonathan Vigliotti: Is there any doubt in your mind that Paul Flores is responsible for the disappearance of Kristin Smart? But Murphy says there were other incidents that should have raised alarm bells about him with law enforcement from the very beginning. to find the next challenge. But Mary Lassiter says the earring matched the necklace Kristin is seen wearing on the billboard. When Lambert later told Kristin's mother, Denise, about those early morning beeping sounds in Susan Flores's backyard, he said her reaction was "shock we just kind of stared at each other for a good long time I think it took a while to settle in, that this could potentially be huge." November 27, 2020 / 8:14 AM Susan Flores's backyard has been the focus of widespread speculation. Kristin Smart has been missing since 1996 and the San Luis County Obispo District Attorney allege she was killed during a rape. Like his black eye, seen faintly in a mug shot taken by the Arroyo Grande Police just by chance two days after Kristin vanished. James Murphy: Well, the location where all this activity occurred is where they found the biological material. DAN DOW [press conference]: We don't have evidence sufficient to charge anyone else at this time. I'm going to go back to the dorms. Early on, a small group of volunteers also looked for Kristin. Flores roommate was out of town that weekend, and Paul knew he had three full days in that room (alone), Peuvrelle told the jury. He says "no.". And for a few moments Jane came to and saw Flores having his way with her. The Arroyo Grande cops, Jane said, favored Floress story that she willingly drank and had sex that night. Some of those women who did not want their real names used told Lambert about their encounters with him. You never look at her again! Chris Lambert: There was a man climbing her trellis and trying to get inside her balcony, very intoxicated and refusing to leave. How could she have gone out of town? Flores father is now charged with helping cover up the homicide by burying Smarts body in his Arroyo Grande homes backyard. Margarita Campos: To this day, like, I was like, why why did I just let her go by herself? A very close-knit family. Margarita Campos: I mean, she was gone. Whatever happened in those early hours, one thing is indisputable: Kristin Smart has never been seen again. On October 18, 2022, Paul Flores was found guilty of first-degree murder. Margarita Campos: I'll never forget her shadow against the building, this apartment complex, just standing like kind of cross-armed with the long leg And she was just kind of like looking at me like, [sighs] you're really walking away now, like you're really, you're leaving? Two days after Kristin Smart vanished, Paul Flores went to the Arroyo Grande Police Department because of an outstanding DUI warrant. In April 2021, investigators charged Paul Flores, left, with Kristin Smart's murder, and his then-80-year-old father Ruben, as an accessory after the fact. Classes were difficult, she was trying to fit in, and she missed her family. And he leaves her to walk up this walkway. Murphy and his wife, Garin Sinclair, agreed to take the case pro bono promising to go after Paul Flores and put pressure on the sheriff's office. And then months and months later, they'd reach back out and say, can you get us in touch with this person again? But perhaps Mary Lassiter's most disturbing story was about being awakened very early in the morning by a beeping sound coming from the backyard. Little is known since the proceedings are kept secret, but no charges were ever filed. "48 Hours" has learned these suspicions center around evidence found during that 2020 search of Paul Flores' home. Smart was last seen with Flores's son Paul. Smart was talking with and socializing with several different males at the party. She was too kind-hearted. Related to: Ruben R Flores, Ermelinda M Thomas, Paul R Flores, Rachel H Flores, Ruben Flores. DAN DOW [press conference]: We have evidence that we do believe there are other people that are not yet identified that have had some kind of a criminal act perpetrated on them by Mr. Flores. By this point Sarahs ex-boyfriend arrived and he and his friends scared Flores and his pal, trying to make sure they never showed their faces again. / CBS News, (This story previously aired on May 8, 2021. Denise Pearce says that was a crushing blow for the Smart family. Just two years. So, when they were invited to a party that Friday night, Kristin was excited to go. Empresa. He hired a detective to work full time on the case, and over the past nine years deputies have carried out searches, conducted new interviews, and gathered additional evidence. / CBS News. Lindsey Smart Stewart: She definitely, like, took advantage of life, seized the day she was super ambitious and was determined you know, to find the next adventure. Chris Lambert says they're cautiously optimistic. Detectives asked Flores about a visible black eye on his face. Includes Address (7) Phone (7) Email (2) See Results. In October 2022, Paul. Lawyers representing Paul Flores, a man found guilty last year of murdering Kristin Smart in San Luis Obispo in 1996, filed motions last week to dismiss the jury verdict and for a new trial. A single woman's earring. Over the years, Susan Flores's backyard has been the focus of widespread speculation because of stories like the ones Mary Lassiter told Chris Lambert. ), A sheriff offices spokesman said his agency couldnt say if investigators working Smarts cold case had been made aware or not of the new alleged victims, citing refusal to comment on an open and active investigation.. A woman nearby screamed at Flores to get off her and threatened to call the cops, she said. Any tidbit of information or recollection could make the difference in the recovery of our beloved Kristin., disappearance of another woman under almost identical circumstances: Kristin Smart. Murphy alleges four nights later, strange activity was seen at Ruben's house. Kristin Smart Murder Trial: Who's who The judge only allowed 1 media pool camera inside the courtroom. I also brought them witnesses that they had no interest in whatsoever. A hundred percent that was happening. Denise had told Lambert that her daughter had been working as a lifeguard at the university's rec center, and every morning Kristin's watch alarm went off to make sure she was at the pool by 5 a.m. Over the years, law enforcement and the Smarts' lawyers have searched Susan Flores's backyard several times, but nothing has ever been found. 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