Edranol, Ettinger, Hass, Sharwil and Zutano were mid-season flowerers. Theres likely to be at least a little variation in your yard. I was there last week visiting a few friends and their avocado trees. But where to find this information otherwise? I can go into the reasons for this if youre interested. There are other varieties that taste as good or possibly slightly better than Hass. Hass x 4 Reed x 3 Sharwil x 1 Unknown grafted x 1 Fuerte x 2 Ettinger x 2 Wurtz x 1 And a few seedlings. 3. It may have something to do with the Gwen tree being a bit wimpy during extreme weather compared to some other avocado varieties. Might turn out to be yours though! Forgive my rambling. Flower Type: Type A. Thank you! In terms of comparing it to the taste of other avocados, thats tricky for me. Im glad you found your Reed there! Youve spurred me to finally post on some portion of the topic at least. Also, strangely, there arent too many Sharwils around considering that its not a new variety and everyone who tastes one says they approve. Best regards, Do remember how heavy the fruit is, and that it will cause branches to bend down significantly. Distinguishing characteristics of the Sharwil avocado include its size, shape, and color. Im watching them do so in my yard right now. GEM. The main negative is that, to me, Pinkertons dont taste quite as good as Fuertes. Oh I wish! I have been trying to research this for a while now trying to figure out the best combination for me. Im from Southern Portugal and had also trouble to find reliable sources for avo trees. It's the plant hormone ethylene, which occurs . Theres no rush. First propagated in 1911 in a California nursery, it got its name - Spanish for "strong" - after a particularly hard frost hit the area in 1913. Greg, The taste of a Sharwil avocado is excellent, on par with any avocado that Ive tasted. Would you recommend Carmen Hass and GEM? They call it Standard or 4 mulch. Some percentage of fruitlet drop always happens, due to incomplete pollination and other unknown factors. It is simply an awesome fruit. What do you think about avocado rootstocks? Maybe I shouldnt have put Reed in that list, but Reed isnt as vigorous as some other varieties such as Bacon, Fuerte, or Hass. That tree eventually did die. Lots of great Hass are grown in nearby Morro Bay. If I had the space for three avocado trees, I would add a Fuerte to the mix. At first, I had a Hass in mind, but found out about the GEM and it sounded more like what I was looking for, especially with the columnar growing pattern. They have been so helpful for me starting my garden. I have a Reed on Dusa that is doing very well. The only real negative was that the seedcoat didnt adhere to the seed. What comes to mind is that Fuerte has a more distinctive flavor. Hi Greg, Hass is the most widely planted variety in the world for good reason. Full sun I see the UC grafting resource you posted, but I am curious how to select varieties that would be well suited for grafting to the same tree. The Hass Avocado. Ill try some beneficial predator mites next. Let me get things together on my side before I share too much about the Lamorinda tree. I live in Sunland, CA, in a very sunny area where the sun is strong all day. Historic photo of Mr. and Mrs. Rudolph Hass in front of an avocado tree Our Avocado Varieties. Maybe one day you will see it. In that case, one Hass tree might suffice. If you want to know how to kill an avocado tree, ask me Ive done it all. In Point Loma/Sunset Cliffs, just make sure the trees arent stressed from lack of water and you should prevent whatever fruitlet drop is possible to prevent. Most people are a bit lazy when it comes to tree pruning. The correct spelling is "Hass." The word "Hass" rhymes with "class," and is often mistaken to rhyme with "Hoss" or "Hozz." Why is it "Hass Avocado?" Because the Hass Avocado is named after Rudolph Hass, a California postman who patented the Hass Avocado in 1935. Hey Greg, Weve been in our San Diego (San Carlos) home a year and are finalizing landscaping. Were planting literally thousands of sharwil avocados in 30 gallon root pouches, mostly above ground. Like Lamb, it will drop some fruit about now in spring before its mature, but you still always end up with a good crop. What an adventure youve gotten yourself into. I have many thoughts on this topic, but dont have the experience so I am curious to get your thoughts on this! Contemplated stopping by Fallbrook and talking to a grower, but returning on Sunday meant I was a bit eager to get home. How did the kahaluu taste? reading on other forums, ive seen comments that its better in the long run to plant a smaller size tree (3 gallon +) compared to a larger 15+ gallon size tree.that the smaller size tree will out perform and out grow the larger gallon size in the future. I wanted to tell you that it appears that there is a Fuerte/Hass cross in Lafayette which is in the bay but just over the hills and away from the fog. Riverside to So surprised I bought one to see how well it works as a hedge as you mentioned in another article. have you seen any truths to that? Thanks again! In 1992, the USDA banned shipment of the Sharwil avocados after an oriental fruit fly larva was found in a Hawaiian packinghouse that processed Sharwil avocados and other local produce. The only varieties that I would avoid for the use of shade are Holiday, Wertz, Stewart, Gwen, and Lamb. If you want to maintain that upright growth, then its best to limit the fruitset or pinch the tips of branches as they grow so that they fork more and are better able to hold a load of fruit. Come to think of it, Id say Nabal fruits taste a tad richer than Reed, actually. I have a place near my citrus trees. I can give it time but wonder if starting new isnt a better option. But sometimes I dont get lucky with that method, in which case I go to the Miramar Landfill in San Diego where they process such wood chips along with other yardwaste by composting it for a couple weeks and screening it. I enjoy your videos! Ive been binge-reading your site after finding it yesterday. It was at Lowes with just an Ettinger tag. It is pear-like in shape and has dark skin when ripe. Type A flowers. Thanks so much in advance Option 1: Reed. (See more on this from a paper by Peter A. You might find this answer boring, in which case Id be willing to bet that you dont already have a Hass tree in your yard. Do you like its eating qualities about as well as Sharwil? Recently I moved to the cusp of Zones 9a and 9b. My head was spinning, trying to develop the perfect avocado plan for my hillside. What are your thoughts on a Sharwil Tree? As for heat-tolerant avocado varieties, I wrote a post about that some years back and Ill be updating it soon: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/heat-tolerance-of-avocado-varieties/. In the meantime, well work on protecting it from sunburn when it hits 100 F or 110 F in a few months! Here is how some of my trees looked after that record heat of July 2018: https://youtu.be/Umm_WOoGERo, I just want to say your posts and YouTube profile videos have been an amazing tool for me! Hi Robert, Terrific! I have a friend who lives in your area: nice place to grow avocados. The main reason Id choose Reed is that its harvest season complements the Hass. The fruit fly is not a threat to the green hard skin of the sharwil. Most of the other retail nurseries buy from the same wholesale growers (La Verne and Durling). You might try to ask someone nearby about the water they use, especially on a young tree (older trees are tougher). Nevertheless, even compared to other trees the same size, Holiday is usually later and lighter in production. 7 years ago. Much larger in size, these avocados . Would appreciate any information that you might wish to share! Ill be back to study more and update you with my progress. (See more about Lamb in my post, The Lamb/Hass avocado tree: a profile.). (See more about Reed in my post, The Reed avocado tree: a profile.). Daily 11 Avocado. Thank again for your help. The owners are nice and said I welcomed to the tree. while studying all this, it really feels like I am from another planet)))))): temperatures are in Fahrenheit, not in Celsius, you have feet, not meters. Having grown up in San Diego and having a father who loved Avocados, I was never without. The good news is that I know trees there that have had them for years, have never been treated for them, and the trees still produce well. I would plant a Hass if I were you. If you knew a lot about your soil, then you could make a better guess as to which rootstock is likely to perform best, but I wouldnt worry about that. The same occurred with my newly planted atemoya: the leaves turned black, and the tree dried to death. I would like to let you know how my adventure in avocado growing proceeds. This is one of the "classic" avocados. What do you think? I would call them and see about buying trees from them if you have trouble locating trees elsewhere. I dont have extensive room for so many trees through which is why I want to graft (actually its that my wife will kill me if I try to plant more than 3 avocado trees). Share a photo if you get a chance. Medium sized, pear-shaped fruit has an excellent creamy, flesh. I wish I could visit that old Puebla. And then if youve got a productive Reed (which are always productive, actually), whose fruit youll want to start eating in summer, then youll only need your Hass fruit to last around three or four months (late spring to early summer). I am curious what your recommendation and thoughts are for year around great tasting avocados from my backyard in Tustin. In the meantime, there are heaps of other varieties that are already publicly available to explore. We also have a Cate Macadamia tree in the backyard which is doing excellent. Im inclined to just replant everything because I dont find that damaged young trees recover very well. Try to check out the frost patterns next time we get a cold night too. If ever back this way soon would compensate you gladly to do a quick evaluation of right and wrong approach here. Im in Yucaipa (barely north of the center of the city.) Sadly, there are fewer and fewer every year. If you can, I would go with those combinations. As you get closer to the ocean and farther north, the Reed season gets later and longer because of the cooler temps. Replaced with a Reed which is doing great so far. Thank you! Heres a link to Miramars offerings: https://www.sandiego.gov/environmental-services/miramar/greenery/cmw#products. (I prefer this to their compost, which is a bit overcooked and too fine for my liking. Were planting a minimum of 5000 trees using a high density planting design and will foliage spray. Out of those choices, I would go with Fuerte just because it has the most potential for cross-pollination with Pinkerton. Maybe you would say Reed or Fuerte to graft instead of Lamb? (I have numerous other avocado trees near my Gwen.) Also, what are your thoughts on a multi-variety grafted tree? We will also compliment with other varieties to have ripe fruit all year, (varieties including malama, yamagata, ota, murashiga, kahaluu, fujikawa), for value added products. I saw that you have a Gwen and was curious what your take is on that. Ettinger, Green gold can not compete with shawil but makes good quac. No one even the owner knows what variety it is, but there is a lot of fruits on it. Oval-shaped and dark-green in color, the Choquette avocado originated in Florida and is a mix of two different types - Guatemalan and West Indian. . Its a sad fact. Anyway, Id focus on A types, and with the 14-foot ceiling you could prune any variety to keep its size in check or go with a naturally smaller variety such as Gwen, GEM, Pinkerton, Lamb, or even Reed (these will all ultimately get taller than 14 feet, but not as soon). On the other hand, I doubt youd be disappointed with Pinkerton, which is widely available. I just dont understand it. And if the tree is small, you might actually need to deliberately remove some of the fruitlets for the trees own long-term health. Fuerte and Nabal are both well known for alternating in this way. Kona Sharwil Avocado 2.0 - The Re-DO - Avocado Talk 1,184 views Feb 6, 2022 50 Dislike Share ReEngineeredMemories 582 subscribers Finally got the Kona in the ground as of today 2/6/22.. I am trying to get a good combination of A & B type and have avocados throughout the year. 1 year old Pinkerton on unknown seedling As for growing a Sharwil tree in your yard, youll probably find that it wont be quite as productive as a Hass or Reed, but possibly more productive than a Fuerte. That sounds like a nice combination of trees, and it sounds like theyre growing very well. 2. Eli mentions that hes swamped with GEM orders, and that he had to save one for me since I contacted him in February because hes completely out of GEM right now. Im jealous. Perhaps the Lamorinda has the answer? Thank you. The skin is green when ripe, is bumpy and of medium thickness, and peels easily. Im guessing youre referring to Van Nuys as being slightly cooler in winter (compared to spots closer to the beach). Lamb, Reed, Pinkerton (and Grande) seem to be the happiest and healthiest. Thats a good question. Its a challenge to choose a single avocado variety to plant. I also checked on a huge old Nabal in OB that I used to eat from, and I was pleased to find that the tree is now doing better than last year. Thank you so much for your response. Do you have any recommendations for which trees/rootstock combinations have the best chance of survival out here? Trees will be on south facing slope w full sun. Yes, I like Nabal. 1. I also purchased a Sharwill and Green Gold from Atkins Nursery last year, but they arent the best trees as they were burned pretty bad from last summers heat wave. When you talk to them they are totally clueless. I would have preferred a Jim Bacon but couldnt find one. Ive found that 30% shade cloth over the top of young trees is enough unless its over about 105 degrees. Sun exposure. Big and green are the two fatal qualities that prevent Reeds acceptance as a commercial variety in todays small and black Hass world. GEM trees are a bit hard to come by, unfortunately. On June 10 and 11 last year (2019), my yard reached 100 both days. Unfortunately, people here seldom grow avocados, it is just not in our culture which is strange, because people do eat avocados a lot, and you find them in every supermarket. You could try a different variety, but I doubt that would significantly change your results. I did a Sharwill, Sirprize and Gemthats a B B and an A, planted them 42 inches apart. Great to hear! You could try one of those. The fruit is tasty, but not that tasty. I decided to go pairwise; Im curious and want to understand whatre the best varieties to eat & grow here in our climate and my particular soil and I hope to avoid alternate bearing issues. Just a couple days ago, I visited the largest organic avocado orchard in California, and they recently planted a lot of Sharwil trees. Shepard avocados will not bend or break. come up with some heat resistant varieties. But a couple are right on the cusp of that top tier. Florida avocados, for one, have less fat; one cup of the fruit has 23 grams of fat compared to a Hass avocado's 35 grams. The flesh had nice color, tasted rich and smooth. Hi Greg. Thank you! Greg The Reed is only two years old and have not harvested any fruit yet. Thats a fun project. At my place Gwen seems to be doing fine in the heat but it is getting some afternoon shade from a large live oak. We had problems with root rot our persimmontree died of root rot). The Sharwil avocados have a 15-26 percent oil content and are very popular in Hawaii. Is there a simpler way. The challenge Ive heard others in your area having is with occasional cold snaps in winter (taken care of by your greenhouse) and such cool spring weather that B types dont set much fruit. The Florida avocado. Ill suggest other varieties and give lots of reasons and scenarios in the upcoming post. That is, they have thick firm skin with rich and nutty flesh, high in oil content. If I had the space for only one avocado tree, I would plant a Hass. Thanks Greg! Hi! Other A-type avocados that are naturally on the relatively small side and produce well and are good eating include: Pinkerton, Lamb, Reed, and Gwen. . Heavy clay is the worst for Hass avocado trees, but if you have no other choice, create a raised bed or a mound with a 3-5 foot diameter to plant the tree on. Carlsbad is an awesome place to grow avocados. But Im game to attack it with a fun and practical twist: Im imagining that I just moved into a new house with a blank yard . Thanks. Buddy, youre the best. Funny thing is that Hass was once an outsider. One thing I didnt consider was the price of avocados during the months where I would likely have to buy. Its very disrespectful when people put such videos on YouTube or otherwise share such information online. USDA Certified Production Facility: Volume up to 6,000 lbs. Finally, Ill say that if I had to have two avocado trees of any one variety, it would definitely be Hass. Peterson.) One of the challenging things is actually figuring out the season for each time and what that season is for those varieties in the location it is planted. Edranol, Ettinger, Sharwil and Zutano demonstrated a closer timing to Hass than Bacon, Fuerte and Shepard . I enjoy hearing your feedback on Holiday. Two, how many people are you feeding? Youre right Walter. So keep that in mind. I read about GEM, and it sounds like it would fit easily in our space and produce great fruit. Thanks Greg. In case you didnt know, Im also in Ramona. Medium thickness of skin - Sharwil and Hass - handles shipping better than thin-skinned varieties (Kahaluu); easier for consumer to determine ripeness than thick-skinned varieties (Murashige, Yamagata). About the leaves, I think most people just think it looks messy. They had to prune three times per year, and still the production had declined since year nine. A couple other options might be Fuerte and Bacon. Step 6. Im going to find the least cold spots on and plant the less cold hardy avocados there. I have bought a number of trees there. Two, get a combination of hardier varieties and others like Hass, Reed, GEM, etc. Taste Ive read is great. "Hass avocados are alternate bearing - they will produce a big crop one year, and a small crop the next. The Hass is a tough act to follow, but Backyard. But I will say that it is definitely precocious in my yard. I have records of the bloom seasons of all of my trees, and Id be happy to share about specific varieties. I know Sylmar, and I would guess that my neighborhood is slightly milder than yours even though my area is also on the hot side in summer and chilly side in winter, as far as most of Southern California goes. I pre-irrigated and sprayed down the trees during the heat and prevented fruitlet drop too well. Black on trunk and brown leaves suggest sunburn and lack of water. It doesnt make great guacamole, but its excellent on sandwiches and in smoothies. Required fields are marked *. that is why I decided to find out by growing two trees and to report on them. If there is excess moisture, your Hass avocado tree might suffer from root rot. But this is just theory, and I lack experience in so many other aspects of gardening. It makes me feel geriatric. A whole avocado contains around 11.8 grams of carbs ( 1 ). From your experience what avocado tree should I plant? So you dont want to prevent the drop of fruitlets if the set is heavy. (I dont have any other varieties available in local nurseries, hence the limited choice..). I feel really enthusiastic about it, and grateful for your advice. Ive got a Fuerte tree that Ive grafted a couple Pinkerton and Lamb branches into, but this situation is easier because I want those Pinkerton and Lamb branches to stay small and just provide pollen for the Fuerte; Im not trying to have each variety take up about a third of the canopy area. Also, there is nothing written about growing avocados in France. With all 3 trees with hundreds of bb size to small marble size. Im also always unsure what Im going to find at these types of stores, which is why I always have a look when Im shopping there. As I mentioned in a different post I have a Fuerte and a Hass here in temecula, Ive been thinking of putting in a third to open the possibility of year round avocados. I dont know anything about salt in soil, never heard of it on the French Riviera. For example, they had Hass planted at 10 feet by 10 feet in 2004, but just topworked that block this spring, 15 years later, because it had become too costly to manage. Together you will get year round fruit, theyre small for avocado trees and better tasting than what you find in stores. (rpondu) Blogue Fruits et Lgumes. They grow and mature on the tree, but they only ripen (soften) after being picked, after their stem is severed. I hope to hear more updates from you. Depending on the cultivar, avocados have green, brown, purplish, or black skin, and may be pear-shaped, egg-shaped, or spherical. I concluded that it was worth growing. Theyre hard to find these days. Its been a great summer in OB/Pt Loma. The Reed avocado variety is a chance seedling of Nabal, selected by James Reed in California in 1948. The fruit is the 'Hass' type, with a pebbly green skin that ripens off the tree to nearly black. Im planning on planting a Reed. Its only the second time I have seen one in 5 years so I took it as fate and bought it to replace a Bacon I had which was burnt away by the sun yet I am convinced it was mislabeled and wasnt actually a Bacon. Adam Tropics is located in the center of Temecula, we offer many varieties, Gem is a new type very similar to Hass Avocado in tree shape and quality of fruits but mature trees grow a little smaller than . The trees are doing spectacularly, especially the Nabal with 18 almost baseball size avocados on it. Weve got room for one, or maybe 2, avocados. It will be in the first week of October. That day gave me a chance to compare the heat tolerance of multiple varieties: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/heat-tolerance-of-avocado-varieties/. 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