Sun-When the Sun is in the fourth house, the native was thought of as an important part of the family. I see, since a conjunction to your IC means an opposition to your MC how was your public persona and or career affected? The tighter is is the more dramatic the year. In the escape, I lost my wallet (my ID -identity)! As a child I would lie in bed watching the roses on the wallpaper turn into malevolent faces as daylight faded; I had to make bargains with . Viv. Lou, I, too, have natal Sun Saturn conjunction. Anne Whittaker has written about the transits of the outer planets to the IC in a moving way. IC joined by Pallas Goddess of strategy and (Juno). At the same time I started an ambitious remodelling of my flat which ended up with half the floor falling through into the neighbours bathroom below, when the conjunction was exact. It was the most challenging time of my life. I had to keep the job no matter what! Posts: 134647From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate.Registered: Apr 2009, Posts: 4609From: Portland, OR - USARegistered: Oct 2011. It means hard work and responsibility are your karmic destiny. BUT, for the first 8 months of my Prog moon in the 4th I watched TONS of WW2 documentary and I was crying all the time watching them! thanks for these posts! Saturn transits the 1st house: Second Saturn transit to IC was at age 40. Ready for some peace and lighter living. Because you have such vague notions streaming through your mind, it will likely take you some time to create or locate the proper venues to shape and bring them to life. I will always have to deal with the seamier side. In June 2012 VenusRx occulted the sun in Gemini 2degrees from my natal sun, in 2019 Mercury occulted the sun in Scorpio and my rising degree was in the Rx zone. This represents the summit, where your merits and efforts are recognized. When Saturn transits conjunct the Sun, our level of maturity, realism, and responsibility come up for inspection. I realized I was not as good a writer as I'd preferred to think and started working harder on developing my ability, increasing consistency and discipline towards that. Family struggle was a theme. It was the beginning of a new phase of our family and, fortunately, light as my 4H is 27* Taurus with lots of Gemini and a Gemini Mars. Lily. I apologize ahead of time, Im going to sound super negative but its pretty honest (I am not normally a negative person by the way). As Saturn starts climbing your chart, you start a figurative climb in life. But I am hopeful that may only apply to the Natal chart 4th. thus opposite saturn so it was all very painful in both fronts. My 10year journey of death and rebirth continues. As we approach the end of 2020 I have Saturn transiting my IC in Capricorn which is known as a cold and rigid placement for such a sensitive moon-ruled point. Talk about crisis at home and feeling lonely! But, I have a feeling if I resolve the issue surrounding household renovation to meet my needs Ill be able to successfully address the osteoporosis!Mainly I want a bigger dining area so I can entertain friends I am a Libra after all and having a better place to accommodate friends will help me express my Sun in Libra and relieve some Saturn transiting the 4th sense of isolation. However, the meaning will be the same. I'm in the last 4 months of my prog Moon in the 4th which I have gone back into complete hermit mode/just focusing on healing (which I have heard that when the prog Moon or a transit planet are months/degrees from leaving a house there is an extra does of that house energy so that whatever needed to be learned/completed get pushed forward). I am more than halfway through & ok but definitely transformed & it has become the pathway to my new vocation moving forward. Taurus rising here, born in 1990. Thanks for replying. My very first Saturn IC transit brought me a 85 year old nun they pulled out of retirement to teach one more year. You create a foundation for your life and once youre on the bottom, you can only go up! I feel strongly that a new location, in the centre of the market town where I lie, probably a retirement flat that will be easier for upkeep and maintenance and which will mean that I can easily walk to where I need to go and help relieve this sense of isolation. They may feel a lack of nurturing or just plain lonely. That s the way to do it! Pluto is squaring my ASC now and I seem to step only into sociopaths around me, it seems like most of my family and colleages at work are psychos. Both have Saturn conjunct their South Node. I would have liked to study further in Oregon but my teen-aged kids needed to be in New Zealand. I have Saturn transit MC and starting the square to my stellium in Libra with Pluto, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Uranus and Lilith. Oh I hope not. They are good examples of why not to use traditional or horoscopic astrology rules. To have Saturn and Jupiter activate my IC is music to my ear. My beloved dad also died. Agree. Home / Aspects / Saturn Aspects / Saturn Conjunct Midheaven. I think I experienced it more in relation to Saturn's square to my Asc and opposition to MC: health and work/expectations. When that natal planet is Sun, Moon, Ascendant, Mercury, Venus, or Mars, we feel the effects in a personal way depending on the planet involved. There was a lot of waiting, uncertainty, and frustration and paperwork. The South Node in the Natal Chart You may have taken on too much responsibility for a young person. The last time Saturn transited my 4th I was forced to move back with my parents due to a strange, difficult to diagnose illness. Can you tell something about? Angular planets refer to the four corners of the chart, and planets that are conjunct these points are said to exercise a particularly strong influence over the horoscope. And then I decided what will be will be and stopped trying to control it. You will have some important duties and responsibilities to attend to which may involve one of your parents. By ASTROFIX ASC DESC MC IC A nchored at the core. If there is something to be shedded, be my guest. You mean Pluto can make you be homeless for 20 long years!??? Saturn was at the MC in 2008 fourteen years ago at the same time as Chiron, Neptune AND the transiting north node were on my IC! Only to learn years later that I was on a journey that involved Pluto(chart ruler)-Uranus (at critical 29degrees in natal chart transiting moon sign Aries)-Neptunian(coruler of my North Node with sun NN in the 5th house in Pisces)-Chiron(returning in 2019)-Jupiterian(transiting Gemini my 8th house of death and rebirth). Or just not being able to come up and being forced to stay at that bottom. Im Aries moon with Mars in the 1st house cusp in fire Sag. Pluto square sun-what house is your sun. I just posted that the light bulb went on when I did my dwads and woke up to the sextile that my North Node (the dragons head) makes to my IC. I have just started dating a person who I think may be able to love me (meaning I may be able to feel lovable), yet she lives in another city 2.5 hours away. What more will there be? gillian. I am now selling because it is too large for me with my Mom passing this year and my kids moving on. Venus is square Jupiter natally, and this one trines Mars. He will be crossing for the first time end of January 2019. Interest rates were rising so I had to make a choice: see my eldest through high school or think about my youngest. I also have a new Moon in my solar return chart, and read that in an adult life, it may mean new beginnings in ones professional life. Yes, youre right, very hard to see anything positive sometimes. Its probably on line somewhere. Right now I am working out how to draw on this, make what I say and write more authentically mine as I work with new graduates. I sold my home over a year ago and am living in a cottage by the ocean in Western Australia. Let's go. I wonder where hers lies. And in the end the family fell apart. Your experience must be really tough. Cant say its been a bag of goodies,a financial betrayal by a family member for one, but good riddance and Truth I can see the benefits with opened eyes & opened heart. 8th house death and rebirth is not easy. i have natal Saturn in Aquarius conjunct IC in a tight 1 degree orb. I had this transit in 2004 at 19y-old. The transit frequently coincides with an empty nest. I dont know, I sincerely feel that Saturn has to do with karma. by Tony Howard Mars buddied up with Saturn in Capricorn at the end of March, and almost instantly I started hearing from friends whose charts are triggered by this aspect. I searched. what do you think? 26 people love it! I hope so. My mother passed as Saturn entered my 4th house. Hi BPip, Is she Out? Any help from jupiter or venus? The house itself needs about $40,000 to update it and I keep going back and forth about what to do. They may be orphaned or unwelcome in their family. Transiting Saturn spends about 2.5 years in each house. does that mmean that there will be more sense of resposibility? My progressed to natal chart for January 26, indicates that the progressed moon would be conjunct my natal 5th house cusp. . Im currently laying low for a bit (the duration of the transit?) When the Saturn-Pluto conjunction of early 1980s hit my IC, it completely unraveled my family. I bought a home amd closed on the day the conjuction was exact. So.capricorn/earth/10 house will be the challenge. In a way, dealing with my childhood conditioning, mother and the roles I took and have carried since. Only this time i was not the one attracted to these pschos and socios because i knew what Uranus intentions were when he entered the 2nd decan of Taurus to activate a transiting YOD with Chiron in Aries and the NN (and other transits in Gemini in 2021). Moving home? Saturn rewards hard work and if you feel burdened by karma, it can be paid off in one lifetime too. Sent 5 times a week. I just switched from sidereal to tropical. I would look at your mothers transits as well. Plutos gonna be a stab in the back from people in power or even men. Havent thouht about uranus and this one is quite a bad boy. Confirmed by the Jupiter (big) square to Neptune (illusion). I also had the NN return at that time, in my Taurus 1H! It was oppo my natal Moon, mars chiron. I send you, and everyone who reads my comment, my warm regards, be well! It all feels very life or death to me. This even applies even to the simplest of things like making an important phone call or paying a bill. They need powers beyond Pluto, well beyond that which is visible to humans. Saturn is about to go back to my 4th from July-Dec but mostly over. Youre right. I certainly hope so! During their stay in the hospital, they began to believe that it was necessary for one of them to die, and after much discussion, Jennifer agreed to be the sacrifice. Saturn conjunct Chiron natal aspects are connected with low self-esteem and an inner expectation to accomplish a lot. Is it normal to feel homesick with Saturn approaching the nadir? You're not the first person to make a string of bad decisions. Saturn has also brought a lot of fight with authorities so I guess Pluto wont be that different. Progressed Moon conjunct IC. Glad that is all over! Sometimes this aspect can indicate delays in your career but it can also mean great responsibility placed on you from an early age. Its not that I started to like it after all that turmoil its just that I got tired of all those struggles to change something as it feels like it is a never ending story. Just had Saturn transit 4th, pluto conjunct my natal moon last month and now Pluto is squaring my sun, a few years ago the Taurus opposing my sun, Venus, Mars was rough! Now I have Saturn hitting the fourth in my solar chart along with Pluto and the home I need to sell needs lots of work. While the call from the hospital was unexpected, her passing was not a surprise to someone who has a lot of astrological backgroundcoupled with the fact that she was 94. Keep in mind, once youre on the bottom, you can only come up.. It was not at all planned, but the stage was set and I walked right in. Saturn rolled me over with the co vid restricting all wat l stated but now Pluto on the March but slowly, My partners money is an issue as hes selling ( mercury) shares in his company but with Saturn on sun mercury conjunct straddling I c and gem on 8 th cusp the Mars retro has made things unable to reach culmination. Natal Saturn on Nadir.I feel my family doesnt want me.Felt homeless all my life. And the event happened when I was in the womb. Whatever ends needs to go! Its been HELL. She was protected by religion just like the sibling who was protected by the coverup (yeah and the covered sibling hides her actions behind the church too). I then moved back to my hometown and received a lot of support and found another job via my hometown connections. But the past 1 1/2 years have been unsettling as parts of my life I had counted on suddenly vanished. From the outside, transit Uranus conjunct Ascendant is notably nuts. Homesickness certainly fits. I discovered a lot. When Saturn transitted my nadir at 28 Pisces I fell out with my two best friends, never spoke to them again. It has been suggested using the methods above that a malefic, ie Mars, Saturn (or a difficult outer planet like Neptune and Pluto) on the angles, augurs a difficult year ahead. This is your first Saturn return. Posts: 858 Also, is Mars the ruler of Uranus Transit the IC because its in Aries? First Saturn transit to IC was at 10 years old. Im dealing with both Pluto and Saturn, a complete drama. And the rest is history. I still live at home with my parents, since Im single, have no job and its nearly impossible finding rent houses in Stockholm! Juno must give me a good not so Saturnian/Capricornian husband. In 2020 Venus Rx in Gemini my sun was her retrograde zone. In addition to this, the M.C. Sign up here! Saturn Conjunct Saturn This is the storied Saturn return, whether you're having it between the ages of 28.5-30, 58-60, or 88-90. Contact with Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are felt over longer periods. Thirty years ago ( 1990-1993) l was also doing total renovations wen partner unfaithful and l chucked him out . Three malefics at once in a sensitive point like Nadirguess will be horrible. But we all need to get our living situation straight at some point. Sign up for my free newsletter offering astrology forecasts, tips and tricks! Whatever the secret is, loving and believing in oneself! You will most likely feel a strong sense of duty and will strive with determination to do something significant with your life. Quite the position for a queen to haveLOL! Comparing oneself with others is bad, yes, I know. They may be orphaned or unwelcome in their family. Hi! The following case shows how strong the feeling of responsibility is with Saturn conjunct Midheaven. Would love to hear more about your experience of the unaspected moon ruling a crucial element of the chart (your sun & my MC). Karmic indeed. Ironically this view is made by those without an unaspected planet. Gemini sun versatile mental sign that is able to adapt to different situations or search for better alternatives if the current situations arent worth adapting to. He almost did not get to come back home and had to leave for months not knowing. What happened when Saturn transited your nadir or 4th house? The link/sextile to my North Node and the trine to South Node-Jupiter conjunction highlighted the significance of my IC. And since Saturn is a slow moving planet, changes and effects these aspects bring lingers a long time. Then I inherited from her. They were known as The Silent Twins because they only communicated with each other. Pluto will reach my Moon in a few years. ? Transiting Pallas is in Capricorn, during the July eclipse in Capricorn the full moon was in exact conjunction to my natal Juno at 13 degrees and then I had a full moon in exact conjunction to my Ceres in the 4th house in Aquarius. Your email address will not be published. As Transiting Pluto conjuncts my Venus I am experiencing many changes in my life due to my marriage. I recommend you examine Saturn sun people Look at celebrities with it Read about it I have Saturn square the sun with moon scorpio and Saturn conjunct the moon. Does anyone know what to expect when both Saturn and Pluto simultaneously transit IC? Saturn conjunct the south node in synastry can indicate that you have to overcome some challenges together. Homesickness wasnt really an issue because my college was in the same part of town as my parents house and I would come back on the weekends. I moved abroad, moved together with a lovely and kind man, he had a lovely family. A recipe for distaster as far as I'm concerned. (Now Neptune is with Mars/Venus.) I have Pluto at my MC 3 degrees past my MC so there are usually inner world outer /world stories. Saturn is now going through my own 4th house. Anyway, heres the kicker that led me on this investigative quest in the first place. Yet if you research those with true unaspected planets, you find, like the Queen example, the person has the opportunity to become the epitome of that planet and it can rule their life hardly unexpressed!! I was chastised by my dad for not making more money to afford the dinner. I left home my beloved community by the beach, to get a new house in a more affordable neighborhood in the dry and dusty suburbs that would accommodate my younger sons needs. I have 25 Sagittarius on IC. The most important thing to take from this transit is to take responsibility, for your past, present, and future. After hanging up the phone, my hand immediately picked the phone up again and dialed back. The Sun conjunct Saturn transit will be a time of hard lessons and an awareness of the fears that cripple our potential. It's expressed in the style of whatever sign the conjunction occupies. 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