A: I remember what I did during that time-out was, I plotted how I could run for class president and win! Q: Over the years, you've kept a pretty low profile. The Michigan Daily published a special edition with news of President Kennedy's assassination. I think she is out to make money than if she has to say he is guilty. Please tell a good story, she told reporters. I move all the way up there, and his parents wouldn't even let us stay in his house because I was the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. She was born on July 17, 1941, in Severodvinsk, Russian SFSR, Soviet Union. In the surreal days that followed the 1963 assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy, as the nation absorbed the dual horror of the presidents murder and the subsequent and very public killing of his alleged assassin, a churchgoer in Ann Arbor looked for a bright spot. And then, they tell a story about how after that I stood up in front of the whole class and said, "My father shot the President." There's always been this little group that's followed us - Mom, Rachel and me-and calls us and is fascinated by anything surrounding us. "She never knew when we'd run into someone, and she didn't want us to look like poor white trash"' June says simply. She relied upon Russian interpreters during interviews with the Secret Service, FBI and the Warren Commission that investigated Kennedys assassination. And I'll tell you why: It could come up at any minute.Q: Did you see the "Seinfeld" episode in which they're at the ball park, and they get spat upon, and --A: The "second spitter," right. As for what his exact role in the assassination was -- well, he'll have to be judged for that before God. Because Marina Oswald realized that she and her children could become the focus of attention at any time, she made sure June and Rachel were always neatly dressed - no matter how small the chore, and despite the fact that the family was often financially strapped. Q: Give me an example of what you'd consider harassment, A: When I was pregnant with my first, some lady got my phone number and called in the middle of the night. There's a lot of genetic things you can't even control that are inborn in your kids. They first met last April in Washington. So she became sort of a tourist attraction.Q: Your childhood doesn't sound like it was easy.A: Mom kept us together. And she's just welcoming them with open arms. For years, the widow of Lee Harvey Oswald has avoided cameras while she tries to live a quiet life in Rockwall, northeast of Dallas. His oldest daughter, June, I believe attended the Univ. of Texas and graduated first in her class or very high in her class. Shes made some TV app Lee loved New Orleans.. She had been in the United States all of 17 months. Q: What are your thoughts on Norman Mailer's new book?A: I don't have a comment on it as far as its conclusions because I haven't read them, but I did start the book. She was born after her family moved to Dallas from Russia. Im sure Mrs. Oswald could conquer English in any school in America. Dr. Ernest T. Campbell, welcomed the idea as the one thing we might do to partially redeem the tragedy.. Q: How old were you then?A: It would have been, like, first grade. We always had this really bad connection, and when you'd pick up the phone you'd hear that other click. Just out of the blue. Well, there's a travel guide she found out about that actually listed the Texas Chilli Parlor and said the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald worked there. Just in recent years; but yes. Porter is 81 years old. She remains protective of her privacy, distancing herself and her sons, ages 6 and 3, from the oddball clique of assassination cultists who have dogged the Oswald women -- Marina, now 53, June, and Rachel, 31 -- ever since the events of Nov. 22, 1963. See for example this thread and interview: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=659, http://www.jfkresearch.com/marina/marina.htm. By the early 60s it was enrolling hundreds of students a year for intensive courses in vocabulary, composition, and grammar. WebAbout one year after Lee Harvey Oswald returned from the Soviet Union with his new Soviet wife and young daughter, he became famous when he was arrested on suspicion of killing President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. She wanted to know Lee; she wants lee to be a saint. What investigation? * J Edgar Hoover himself solved the crime within 2 hours or so of the murder * The FBIs sole purpose then was to prove J Edgar The first of its kind in the country, the ELI was established to provide instruction and support for international students who speak English as a second language. A good person. As for what his exact role in the assassination was - well, he'll have to be judged for that before God. Oswalds wife Marina, two daughters, brother Robert and mother Marguerite were the only mourners. I had a conversation like that with her in about 88. She hadn't read it. And I said, "Yes?" Please get her away from Michigan. Oswald has three children, two daughters, and one son. It's right across from the Capitol, and she was a waitress. The public first came to know Marina Oswald through a black-and-white photograph snapped as she left a Dallas jail, where her husband was held after the Kennedy shooting. Porter still lives with her second husband Kenneth, however in private, and is afraid to go out in public. Anyone can read what you share. I'm a strong woman, but I don't know if I could've kept myself together. We are very close -- except when these kinds of things come up. He tried to after the arrest but everybody discounted it. By the end of the year, however, she was ready to travel from Texas to become a student. One of the latest authors to wade into the conspiracy waters is Norman Mailer, whose book "Oswald's Tale: An American Mystery" will be published next month. He wasn't much of a husband, he wasn't much of a father. Anyway, the only person I knew up there was Priscilla Johnson McMillan, who wrote my mother's book. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. She came to New Orleans to give the discussion and promote her book, Me and Lee: How I Came to Know, Love and Lose Lee Harvey Oswald. Audience members received a book with their ticket purchase, and Baker signed copies throughout the day. If someone has it, I would also like to read it again. She later moved to Minsk to live with her uncle Ilya Prusakov, a colonel in the Soviet Ministry of Internal Affairs, and to study pharmacy. Obviously, if I'd wanted to share that I would have told everyone a long time ago. 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I believe he's the first writer-researcher to get interviews with sources in the Russian Government and so this is an opportunity to shed new light on the subject from an area that has never been explored in any meaningful depth. Oswald has indicated a desire to continue her education and mastery of the language is a necessary preliminary to such study. She would be one of 28,000 students on campus. So I called my staff in, a group of 10 or so, and I said: "Yes, that is me in the article. So I called my staff in, a group of 10 or so, and I said: "Yes, that is me in the article. A Brief History of the Salem Witch Trials. Your Privacy Rights Im just like everybody else, and Ive had more than enough.. We didn't use the Oswald name, and it didn't come, up a lot around the house except when reporters would call It was always a big deal in November, when it was very stressful in the house. If she was led to LHO in Russia and then to his family after Dallas, what does that tell us? If you are willing to consider me to become your companion, I shall give you my best to make you happy and pull you out of the morass of bitterness, came an offer from Bangalore. I've never seen her act like that, like she needed to become more of a crusader, and it's taking its toll. Privacy Statement So she became a sort of tourist attraction. Baker said the city of New Orleans, where Oswald was born, was central to their relationship. In her early years, grocery shopping with her mother, Marina, and sister, Rachel, took place amid stares and finger-pointing; hushed conversations ignited around them like flash fires as they walked the supermarket aisles. Oswald was among 30 students in her English Language Institute course. It was the committees hope to keep the matter from becoming public information in order that Mrs. Oswalds opportunity to review the matter objectively would not be lost, he said. What do I tell them? Oswald with ELI Director Catford on graduation day in February 1965. An ELI official described her as an average student. Nonetheless, during several interviews over the past she reports being content. She seemed without grief, filled instead with outrageicy, edgy, and spoiling to argue. TimesMachine is an exclusive benefit for home delivery and digital subscribers. A review of Bakers book said Baker and Oswald were attempting to create a cocktail of toxins that would infect Castro with cancer while they worked at cover jobs at the Reily Coffee Company in New Orleans. Got a question? Well, we're all waiting and a car pulls up in the driveway, and Mom rushes out to greet these parents, and they happen to be a man and a woman, and they've got a camera and she says, "Oh, you're gonna take pictures! My first serious boyfriend -that's what he was fascinated about. The Presidents were all around the walls in the rooms. I want to make sure they understand why I'm so matter-of-fact about it. Q: But are you comfortable with the fact that Lee Oswald played at least some role? Marina Nikolayevna Oswald had two daughters, a 21-month-old toddler and an infant born just five weeks before the assassination. Marina Oswald remarried, had a son, and continues to live in Texas. Her two daughters fathered by Lee Oswald grew up to be attractive ladies and ar If the truth can be found that shows Lee had nothing to do with the assassination, I would feel better in that there have been a lot of things said and done regarding my family that all proceeded from an erroneous perception of what he did or didn't do. Given everything above, you'd probably expect his return to be announced by dozens of men in dark glasses bundling him out the airport and into a mobile interrogation chamber. When my mother came on and this interview went so badly, I decided I really wanted to rebut. She should send James Files a letter. We were studying the Presidents. But see, I'm matter-of-fact about a lot in my life. This is material I never would have known about insofar as my mother's side of the family, because my mother was illegitimate, you know. In Dallas, Porter gave birth to a second daughter, Audrey Marina Rachel Oswald. Wish there were more, by the family of Lee. These rarely-seen pictures of President John F. Kennedy's assassination, autopsy, and funeral reveal the full story of the shooting that shook the nation in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963. She no longer had reason to doubt her grandiose visions, her place in history. Terms of Use And I realize that I'm kind of cold about it, so how do I tell them? Marina Oswald Porter was the Soviet-American widow of Lee Harvey Oswald. But you know, just because you're hanging out with a weird group - they could have set him up, and he could have had no idea what was going on that day. I just remember crying a lot because Mom was crying. It was hilarious.Q: If someone was to ask you today who your father is, what would you say? I have two small children, I'm divorced, I didn't want people to harass the kids.Q: Give me an example of what you'd consider harassment.A: When I was pregnant with my first, some lady got my phone number and called in the middle of the night. A: Kenneth. I know you were just a toddler, but do you have any recollections of turbulence in the household?A: I don't have any real memories of those ages. That didn't set well with me. Browse 22 June Lee Oswald had two children, Rachel and June the. He beat my mother. She is convinced that her phones are tapped by the Secret Service and the Secret Service wants to kill her. Lee Harvey Oswald Daughters - Rachell and June - The Oswald Mystery of the JFK Files Watch on By all accounts, she was a devoted mom to her two daughters by Oswald June (now 51) and Rachel (now 50), who told The ENQUIRER: Yes, when asked if she believes her father was innocent. Fitzgerald, JFK Novelist is proudly powered by, In thriller novel SAVING JACKIE K "Everything in my novel is true, except the stuff I made up. Born in New Orleans, Louisiana, the son of Robert Edward Lee Oswald and Marguerite I didn't break down and cry or anything. It's a little bit like opening a family album you didn't know existed before. The churchs executive committee agreed. Mom would smoke all the time. It's not a matter of being ashamed, it's a matter of wanting to be judged as June Oswald and not "the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald.". For all of Oswalds notoriety, there was little reaction to her being on campus. So if I'm able to be detached or seem cold and unemotional about it, it's because I look at Lee in those terms. "Having seen Marguerite Oswald's son murdered before my eyes, I dreaded intruding upon his mother's grief," Huffaker wrote. There were times when we didn't have milk to drink. Q: Where do you stand today as far as your perception of what really happened out there in Dealey Plaza? And then she was gone. WebMarina met Lee Harvey Oswald (a former U.S. Marine who had defected to the Soviet Union) at a dance on March 17, 1961. This was before wiretapping got more sophisticated. Jack Ruby, in full Jack L. Ruby, original name Jacob Rubenstein, (born March 25?, 1911, Chicago, Illinois, U.S.died January 3, 1967, Dallas, Texas), American nightclub owner who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, the suspected assassin of Pres. When the Session convened within a week of Oswalds arrival, half its members upset and embarrassed about being left in the dark were angry to the point of wanting to reprimand the church leadership. I try to hold that in the back of my head. We lived in poor housing or were taken in by others. when it was going on, and somebody said, "Your father was a hero." My secretary in my last job put two and two together based on one of those articles. I don't blame him for not being here for me. Q: How are things between you and your mom these days? Do I need to be more compassionate' about it? So I ended up supporting him. Q: To what extent have you followed the various conspiracy theories?A: It's only in recent years that I've started to get involved in all that, mostly as part of trying to get the records released. Oswald is now well along in an eight weeks course at the English Language Institute and is living in one of the homes of the congregation. A: Part of it was the big anniversary, the 30th. ", With several months to reflect after the President's assassination and her husband's death, Marina's views had hardened. Oswald's girlfriend offers variation on JFK assassination. And more: "There were some violent scenes. Complicating her situation was that Oswald spoke very little English, was jobless and feared being returned to Russia. Why have you started to speak out? The law said that if they felt that way, then those documents needed to be turned over to the Assassination Records Review Board and those folks would review the records and either concur, release them in blacked out state or release them entirely. by certain people in the critical communiity, so no wonder they are a bit gunshy. It would seem a perfect fit for Oswald. She was never recognized. Porter has said that she came to believe that her husband Lee Harvey Oswald was innocent. Because that's mostly what I think of when I think of Lee. Almost immediately, she began receiving offers of help money, clothing, food, housing from around the country. These women were left with a horrible legacy and have no doubt tried to separate their father from his legend- father as Lone Nut, a disgrace or Government worker and valiant spy, patsy? Well, that's what Rachel wants to believe. A few months later the young family moved back to the United States. The assassination has also been a constant in the life of June Oswald Porter, the 33-year-old daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. He said things when we were together like he really wanted to have children because "that would be the blood of Lee Harvey Oswald that was flowing through the kids.". She was 23, neatly dressed in a skirt, sweater and winter coat, and looking like a graduate student with books tucked under her arm. "I do not accuse her, but I think that part of the guilt in connection with what happened with Lee lies with her because he did not perhaps receive the education he should have during his childhood, and he did not have any correct leadership on her partguidance. Others told us that our action was unwise, still others that it was unfair. But you have to understand that, aside from what role he had in the assassination, there's the issue of what role he had in our family. She copied it and put it on all my staff's desks. This is material I never would have known about insofar as my mother's side of the family, because my mother was illegitimate, you know. A: It was unusual. And there have been public hearings there and in Dallas and Boston. But anonymity exacted a curious price of its own, as June faced myriad graceless references to her father, mother and family. Email notifications are only sent once a day, and only if there are new matching items. I started worrying about, first of all, do I have a responsibility to tell them? Send her back to Texas and if she felt any sorrow at all for the horrible thing her husband did to Jackie and all of the decent citizens of the United States, she would go back to Russia (where she belongs), said a writer from the Upper Peninsula. Well, that's what Rachel wants to believe. Q: How did you feel about being singled out? It's a little bit like opening a family album you didn't know existed before. And they got my mother on television in a live interview - she still doesn't have a good grasp of the language - and they were asking her specific questions about this book. She wished to face reality, not dodge it, the church reported in its newsletter. thanks for posting that interview I had not read it before. Oswald worked sporadically at different jobs, such as a sheet-metal worker and a photoprint trainee. Porter met Lee Harvey Oswald at a dance in March 1961 in Russia. She didn't feel like Kenneth was her dad. She got all caught up, because she wants so badly to have this identification with her father. They said it would depreciate the value of their home. Earlier in the week, Baker toured sites in New Orleans significant to her relationship with Oswald, such as the former offices of Reily Coffee Company and Oswald and Bakers rendezvous locations. A few letters arrived at President Harlan H. Hatchers office, most from writers who were angry enough to write but not to the point of signing their names. By then, he had moved on from Ann Arbor to the pulpit of Riverside Church in New York City. A: I don't have a comment on it as far as its conclusions because I haven't read them, but I did start the book. You try to be nice because you don't want to make somebody upset who's going to seek you out if they're kooky enough to do that stuff anyway. She said she came to know Oswald while the two worked on a plot to kill Fidel Castro during one summer when she was 19. My biggest concern was that people at the office had my home address and phone number and I didn't want it leaked to The National Enquirer I have two small children, I'm divorced, I didn't want people to harass the kids. He tracked me down. I'm sure he will respond. It was a statement she memorialized by etching it in copper. A: It would have been, like, first grade. Together, they had a son Mark Porter. It's right across from the Capitol, and she was a waitress. Another car pulls up -- and that's the parents and the little boy. See, this is the difference. June is quieter about her own marriage, which ended in 1992. And she's just welcoming them with open arms. Now, Mom does articles that she doesn't bother to tell me she's doing, and sometimes my name comes up. Click "Submit" to let the Reveille's student journalists know. Almost immediately, she began receiving offers of help money, clothing, food, housing from around the country. If I want to sell a picture to a magazine or a newspaper and protect myself financially, I am going to continue to do that.". Q: Your childhood doesn't sound like it was easy. A: It has put certain strain on it. There's a lot of genetic things you can't even control that are inborn in your kids.Q: How are things between you and your mom these days?A: The last two years have been very stressful, because she started doing things that she hasn't let us know about, then all of a sudden I hear about it or see it on TV. The churchgoer turned to her minister at Ann Arbors First Presbyterian Church. She wanted to know Lee; she wants Lee to be a saint. It was her meetings with the Warren Commission, as well interviews with the FBI, that prevented Oswald from coming to Ann Arbor in 1964. Just out of the blue. And I said, "Yes?" He was 99. Additionally, Porter told the commission she believed her husband was guilty of shooting President Kennedy on Nov. 22, 1963. Anyway, the only person I knew up there was Priscilla Johnson McMillan, who wrote my mother's book. 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", on Interview with Lee Harvey Oswalds Daughter She Believes in his Innocence, Interview with Lee Harvey Oswalds Daughter She Believes in his Innocence. And she recalls her childhood as a "pretty happy" time, thanks in large part to her stepfather. It's not a matter of being ashamed, it's a matter of wanting to be judged as June Oswald and not "the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald.". When my mother came on and this interview went so badly, I decided I really wanted to rebut. We didn't use the Oswald name, and it didn't come up a lot around the house except when reporters would call. Why have you started to speak out?A: Well, there was a lot of misinformation being released related to a book, "Case Closed," by Gerald Posner. Now shes a widow, too, was the headline in newspapers across the country. Q: I guess you must be encouraged that the review board was finally sworn in last year. Oswald was born in New Orleans, Louisiana, on October 18, 1939 to Robert Edward Lee Oswald, Sr. (18961939) and Marguerite Frances Claverie (19071981). Robert Oswald died of a heart attack two months before Lee was born. "It is my own opinion that she is out right now to make as much money as she can on her relationship with Lee Harvey Oswald," he told the Warren Commission. You have permission to edit this article. When money ran low, she sold a letter or document connected to Oswald or an article of his clothing. If they could prove somehow that he was innocent, he'd still not be a hero, he'd be a martyr. She managed to evade the media upon arriving (She slipped into our community at night by train while a battery of reporters were waiting hawkishly at the airport, Campbell said), but photographers were waiting when she stepped onto campus the morning of January 5 for ELI orientation. Son murdered before my eyes, I decided I really wanted to share that I 'm of. 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