Nichole maybe he lost his keys during the killing of the girls and had to go back asking RL if he could search for the missing girls really searching for his keys. A drug connection appears to be ruled out. That rumor was so pathetic that I discounted it immediately as ridiculous. This poster also repeated the favorite that Leaker should be arrested for some fake crime called interfering with an investigation. There have been calls for years to have me arrested on this fake crime too. I have a photograph of him with his daughters from 2009 when they were girls. eventAction: 'click_ads' Im actually leaning towards the latter, as insane as that sounds. Probably most of these men repress or suppress their hebephilic urges which will land them in prison if they act on them and instead focus on their prosocial urges towards adult women, which are completely legal. Second photo is of what he thinks is a pink sock (if the photo is actually real). 1998 - 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. | All Rights Reserved. He says hes going to call his wife and shes going to bring him a spare set. In the above photo, Libbys right and left legs are marked. The two tows within 24 hours of each other are pretty weird all right. Especially poorly educated ones who don't understand art and artistic expression. I was sure that Mr. M. killed those girls, as his behavior around that time was very suspicious, but now I am not so sure. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. But it is dangerous behavior for men to engage in, as you might get caught and go to jail or prison in the midst of an insane moral panic about this subject. However, family members of a number of convicted killers, even serial killers, have said similar things. But now here I have a credible witness, a female member of the search team, who told me about this weird crime scene, and it turns out a lot of the crazy stuff Ive been laughing at all this time may well be true. Thats a fact. The animal appears to be holding something in its hand. Sigh. Suddenly he was on top of her and slit her throat so deeply he almost cut it off. I cant. Women are lousy at logic as any man whos had a girlfriend or wife knows, but men blow at intuition, so it all evens out in the end. },false) He says that this is about awareness about infant mortality but its really morbid. Besides, who knows if he did it or not? Be my guest. That sucks. This means lawyers, police, and family members cant talk about the case in public. Good times. Here is what I believe. But thats a fairly normal attraction for a 14 year old boy to have. WebDown The Hill: The Delphi Murders HLN True Crime 3.7 10.4K Ratings; Abby and Libby - 2 young girls murdered. All these items seem to be in the creek. We have trial by jury in this country, and everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Abby was on the ground too, handcuffed. Its probably #5 or 6 in popularity in the last two decades. I know theres a thought that he cuffed the girls at some point which obviously would restrict them but then what does fought like hell refer to? At this point, I consider it proven that BG plunged a knife into or near Libbys shoulder. This has been the default interpretation of these murders. Eighth gradersAbby and Libbywent missing while hiking through the woods near Indiana'shistoric Monon High Bridgeon February 13, 2017. Thats intuition, the Gestalt, I know it when I see it. pg.acq.push(function() { However, ~23% of men react maximally to girls age 12-15 at a level equal to or higher than their reaction to mature females. Also note that the girls legs have been spread by the killer, same as they are in the photos below. Otherwise the case never goes to trial. The hebephiles would scream, No grandmas! every time someone posted a 16 year old girl. . He was cleared of involvement in the case. And theyre all here to look at his victims and theyre so stupid they cant figure out he did it, so hes basically taunting them and being brazen by staying right there the whole time. Sleuthers suspicious, question the key being lost, then not lost, then truck towed, and others insist he never lost his keys, never claimed to, and asked Ron Logan permission to search his property rather to supposedly find the girls. Did he stay out there next to his truck all night? The U.S. Sun cannot confirm what the images show or whether they are legitimate. We have a lot more on Mr. X in this previous update. God, Id love to know what Rons take is on all this, not that hes the most reliable guy either from what I understand. What in Gods name is he talking about?! No one knows what was in Mr. Xs truck at the time it was towed, and theres no evidence that it was searched that day by LE. Its true that some of these men commit a crime like this as young adults and then go on to live normal lives and never commit another homicide. Third photo is again of the shoe, what looks like a pair of underwear and what looks like a tie die tshirt (again, if the photo is actually real). On Tuesday, a true-crime podcast released documents that shed new light on the unsolved crime, WRTV reported. The searcher is clear that one object was so large that he could have been carrying it when he was photographed on the bridge. I love grown women. The roommate reported his concerns to the Delphi hotline. It really hits me hard. I wonder if on a rare collectors type .40 or 10 mm if a silencer can be used? I dont think he moved the girls, but if so, my guess would be the CPS building, which I do not believe was ever searched & conveniently has been since demolished, so any evidence would be history. Worse, he positioned a log in between poor Libbys legs, making it appear that she was being penetrated with a log! Libbys grandmother Becky Patty said Allen was the one who printed off pictures that were used at the girls funeral. His whereabouts during those 18 hours are a mystery. hitType: 'event', Now that makes more sense to me! I wouldnt put a whole lot of faith in the Rare Collectable Firearm thing, a .40 Cal round, is a fairly common caliber. As I discussed in my last update, I recently came upon photocopies one or more official document(s) relating to the case. Its obviously BAM. Best friends Libby German, 14, and What was the motivation? Many start losing interest in girls as soon as they hit 13. Well, ok, nowhere in that piece is that football player connected to Mr. X. I think that is just a photo of some random football player myself. If Mr. X did the Evansdale Murders, then he may be a pedohebephile in terms of age attraction. Indiana State Police He put them both out of commission in seconds, and he killed both of them within a minute or two. The only way this makes sense is if Mr. X was not in another town but was in the bridge area. Even for Ted Bundy this was considered shameful. What is the likelihood that she made up a lie about the girls legs being spread at the same time as I found some crime scene photos that I interpreted as the girls legs being spread? Thx, I dont know a damn thing about guns. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), He doesnt say if he went home that night or what, and nobody else is talking either. First of all, Ive been hearing these rumors forever, and Ive been laughing as hard as anyone. There is a YouTuber who was showing photos that he couldnt state to be totally real, it was pics of the clothing in the and around the area of the crime scene. This would follow from the report of the search party member below where she says that Libby had a log jammed up perpendicular to her crotch to make it seem as it was penetrating her sexually. In order to discuss this, unfortunately I am going to have to print those photos again. About 0%. The post goes on to claim the judge "will not be happy" if they find out someone related to the case released the photos. DAs wont dare touch a homicide case, much less a serial or multiple homicide case, unless they think they have enough evidence for a conviction. Hebephile: Although age ranges vary, I prefer the age range of 12-15 for hebephiles. Ok? There is a child serial killer who has killed several little girls over the past 10-20 years. A solution to this problem lies in the notion of pedohebephilia. This shows they had a gun cartridge from the scene and it also shows that a shack may well have played a part in this crime. The article implied that he was a prime suspect. Their bikes were strewn across the bike path. Its possible that KK and Allen were the people trying to market this murder tape. The shocking news that we learned from our retired LE contact was that LE now thinks that the Delphi Murders and the Evansdale Murders are linked. There are persistent rumors of a murder tape that got put out on the Internet. Ill save those words when I see him face-to-face, Mike Patty said. I don't think any civilians have pics of the actual scene, do they? * Nevertheless, the continuous nature of these bizarre rumors, now backed up by an excellent eyewitness, does add some credibility to these insane rumors. LE detained him for a while. https://www.facebook.com/1174987605/posts/10219588288995875/. What I mean is what if Mr. X is claiming he lost his keys in the woods when he was helping with the search? I wasnt there, so obviously I cant say for sure but I would definitely like to know more about the source of info that he was claiming he lost his keys. The dates of the Evansdale and Delphi Murders are exactly reversed. Assuming that Mr. X is the prime suspect, they already have his DNA. I have a feeling many of the youtubers or Podcaster trying to paint the release of those photos as shocking and disrespectful simply maybe jealous they didn't get the photos. I dont know what that means. If you followed Leigh Kerrs leak on Reddit, Leaker said that LE has a prime suspect in this case. However, backing that up somewhat, I have screenshots of a woman, Ms. Y, who knew Mr. and Mrs. X for a long time. Has it been proven that BG was wearing a mask? It would have been a long-distance murder. I have nothing but intense admiration for all of the detectives working on this case. This person told me that he found this woman to be very credible. I dont know what to say, so Ill just say (again) that Im so very sorry and I know this anniversary never gets easier. Problem is Abbys mother didnt know all sorts of things. Keep in mind that I have not been able to verify this rumor. They highlighted this to make Mr. X think they were after the wrong vehicle and had abandoned the theory that his orange truck was involved. Thats terrible. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. Add Iran to That Sino-Russian Alliance While You Are at It, More Crazy (Obsessive and Conspiratorial) Antisemitism, This Is Almost Certainly the Single Most Inexplicable Series of Geopolitical Blunders in Recorded History, The Rules-Based Order the US Keeps Blabbing about, The Jewish Conspiracy To Subject Humankind. If all the items left are true and of course he would not have had them all on him on the bridge once again makes me look at the now demolished CPS building where all evidence would now be destroyed but what would have been in a old CPS buildingpossibly unwanted eft behind unloved toys dolls, stuffed animals and even sheets are possible? The smiley face cloth appears to be a reference to the Smiley Face Murders, a mystery involving many mysterious deaths that may be either accidents or homicides staged as accidents. Theres just a lot of mixed emotions.". I did have sex with underage teenage girls 14-17 for four years during the ages of 18-21. But heres the thing. She has since remarried and moved to Arkansas. Liberty German And Abigail Williams Went Missing February 13, 2017 And Were Found Murdered. It may have been livestreamed over the Yello livestreaming site in France. ga('create', 'UA-67136960-15', 'auto', 'ads'); Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. There was no gunshot heard between 2:20-3:35 PM at the bridge, and there were people there. Chilling photo shows daughter of Delphi killer posing in SAME spot where victims were last seen alive, DELPHI MURDERS: Why prosecutors argued that suspect Richard Allen shouldn't be given bail, On Kelsi's post, several people expressed their sorrows, with one person writing, "Thinking of you and yours today, as Im sure so many around the country and world are. Blowing up the comments section is just fine. The Delphi Killer could have been either a hebephile or a teleiophile based on the age of his victims. X lost his car keys! Family, friends, and wife all say its nonsense, he never lost his keys. Sorry, that was supposed to be . This is why Detective Carter was so livid. We regard that as unverified with substantial likelihood of being true. He would have been 46 when he did the Evansdale Murders, but he may have committed a sex crime between the ages of 16-26, so theres your prior earlier in life. eventAction: 'click_image_ads' The ages of the minors in that group are not known. So its very common for non-hebephiles to be on these forums. This is a result of a huge Sex Panic around the sexuality of teenage girls because we cannot acknowledge that they are fully sexual creatures without falling into a Puritanical moral panic. Also both sets of girls were killed on the 13th, traditionally an unlucky number and day. Im glad you mentioned the struggle. Another crazy rumor, that of a bleach bottle left at the scene, was also validated by the woman. hitType: 'event', Cops catch him in three different lies about why his truck is sitting right above the crime scene for 18 years within a 6 minute walk of the girls. So Libby was posed inflicting a self-inflicted wound upon herself. The roommate also said that he felt that Mr. X might have committed the Evansdale murders too. People look too much into things seeking creepy connections to break the case so to speak. Trashing Leaker, Part 2. I also do believe that he has been spoken to by LE and has been on their radar at least at one point. BG? Go ahead and write whatever you want. He also thought the murders had occult or Satanic overtones. Now that they have an arrest, the Patty family says the hard part begins. Could there be indication he went out of his way to obscure bruising/cuts/scrapes he received from said struggle during the search? I am keeping the number, nature, and provenance of the document(s) deliberately vague as I am trying to protect the source who mailed them to me as photocopies. You chose to lend credence to Robert Lindsay, who has literally confessed to being a pedophile. None of this DNA is usable in court. How on earth he managed to get that close to the crime scene is beggars belief. LE: We believe we have something of yours. Remember that? Sleuths abandoning Mr. X as a Suspect. Then you get a password and you are in. Unlessthey cant use the keys as evidence! While it is unclear when the photo was taken, Allen's wife posted the image just a year after the teen friends were found dead on an Indiana hiking trail, sparking a five-year-long mystery over their murder. Is there some other reason? From 2000-2010, he moved around Indiana, moving about once a year to a new town. "If you think it could be, but then say, 'No, he's not like that,' go with your initial instinct. A man named Eric Alter claimed to have gotten an injunction against my blog with WordPress. Ive speculated that too. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), She came upon the site after the girls had been found. When buying cowboy boots, there are a few aspects to consider, such as how far up they go on your legs and their design. On the other hand, strong pedophilic attraction is quite normal in men. Idk if whats already typed within the above blog is correctable. So hes attempting to profit off of dead babies? We also learned, which ought to be no surprise, that Mr. X had a rap sheet for a sex crime committed during the 1980s when he was between 16 and 26 years old. Does he still have them up on Youtube? . Neither the sheriff nor the prosecutor returned The U.S. Sun's calls and messages for comment on Friday. Id be embarrassed to have sent this to the fbi, if you actually did that. The hebephilic attraction is an antisocial attraction. Furthermore, a white van had been seen cruising the streets of Evansdale for a few weeks before the murders. Teenage girls are another matter, but thats not pedophilia. Remember the bizarre Smiley Face Murders, the possible drownings of severely intoxicated young adult college age men in the Eastern US over a period of 10-20 years? His word is good and his morals are strong. Poor thing lived for maybe five seconds and then died. For a long time, LE thought his man did the Evansdale murders. Most sexual murders of children are committed by misophiles. Considering that the killer catfished Libby only via Snapchat for four months and specifically targeted her for the murder, it is interesting because he knew her grandparents well so presumably he was quite familiar with Libby. Why did he park his truck hidden at the cemetery directly above the crime scene? I have graphic artists who do that for me. These LE guys are extremely smart and crafty. The thing is that new information I got says that they are all correct! if(document.querySelector("#google_image_div")){ Actually many of my best sleuths down through the years have been women. Sending you all lots of love and hugs. He was 21 at the time of the crime, and hes a dead perfect match for the second sketch. We dont know who Mr. Z was. Reportedly, LE has one smudged fingerprint from the crime scene. Allen, 50, has been charged with two counts of murder in the killings of the teen girls, whose bodies were found in 2017, after the friends went for a walk on the Delphi Historic Trails. Should be turned into LE as I have heard rumored pall malls was found at CS. Some have said the missing keys were mentioned on the police receivers that night. They are called the Smiley Face Murders because in many cases, smiley faces were seen drawn on bridges where the drowned bodies were found. 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