Edit: Got my answer, thanks for your help! Upstate Performance and Automotive Repair. Good point. The B58 is probably a much more natural transplant since that chassis already comes with it. 1 Reply More posts you may like At least one of them has to be your style. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Are you saying that the cylinder walls are bare aluminum? Stage 2. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Contact: Lester Manwiller - 610-823-4656; [email protected]. But I could be talking out my ass so please correct me if I'm wrong. For these guys it wasnt challenging, also my car was fourth or fifth with swapped engine, which made by their hands). the 340 is the upgraded 335 and it has been 10 years so yea its about time BMW release an engine as good as the N54 (power wise). i just want to know ask why no one will swap a b58b30 in it? E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. That is impressive! Hamburg, PA. Hamburg Automotive Swap Meet & Car Corral, Hamburg Field House, 127 S. Fourth St. (rear), Hamburg, PA. Held 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Over 100 indoor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces plus car corral. 4. Such a better motor than the N55. I think better off just upgrading to M2 Comp but still cool to see. Poor choice for a race car ??? If you like the e9x, but an n54 version thats been a victim of rod bearing failure or turbos that need replacing. E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) E39 (1997 - 2003) E46 (1999 - 2006) E36 (1991 - 1999) E60 / E61 (2004 - 2010) Top Contributors this Month View All shawnsheridan 428 Replies. Sure, it'll fit dimension-wise but you'll have to retrofit so much to make it work and communicate properly with everything. Tags 340i downpipe jb4 mod turbo. G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations . :). B58 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications. Once the car was completed, we took it for a test and then took an original 325i for a test. www.n54tuning.com / [email protected] Your # 1 Source for BMW Performance Parts at the LOWEST Prices! I have a full e92 335 missing motor and box if you need parts. MTC Motorsport BMW M140i M240i 340i 440i 540i and 740i 4.5" stainless steel decat downpipe for B58 engine only This will NOT fit the 2018 onwards models with the PPF filter unless it has been coded out and can be removed. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Do you have any videos on youtube? M markusmarkus Registered 2018 M240i Joined Jul 22, 2008 Rep. 296. Location: Los Angeles, CA and Phoenix, AZ. Saw this post linked from the 6MT trans limit discussion. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. I don't know what the point would be to swab a b58 and use a standalone when going to an m54b30 turbo with standalone should be a little easier. 5. I suppose as long as you're starting with a bare bones skeleton e92, frame only, you might be able to Frankenstein one together? If you really want an E92, I mean damn, that car came with the N54, N55, and S65. 1 marcus45A1 5 mo. Automotive flea market with over 100 indoor vendor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces and car corral. Push the connector into the new socket housing as far as you can with your fingers. This makes no sense, but I love it. So the swap itself isn't really worth it in your opinion? Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! Items for everyone including white elephants. I want to know how I can fit the G80 grilles to my F80. Location: Hamburg Fire Co. Field House, 1127 South Fourth St, Hamburg, PA 19526. Provided you can get traction, it would chomp a lot of cars. They said that its harder to install in pre lci f30 with n20, how they did, cause of big difference between pre lci and lci in electronic system. You'd need some aftermarket mods as well. I wouldnt. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. I thought about s55 firstly, but lots of guys said that it would be much harder to install and tuning will cost more too. Very interested in seeing more info on this build. From $650 View. Despite the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo as compared to a single single-scroll turbo, a true twin turbo setup mirrors the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo. It was a post on the M2 page on Facebook. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. This motor is very easy to remove,,,plenty of room in the engine compartment,,,,,hopefully I can do the job in the aloud factory time limit of 16 hour,,,,,today of 6 hours of work,,,,I removed the engine and trans,,,removed the old engine,,,swapped over the new engine,,,,and swapped over the intake manifold,alternator,a/c compressor and starter The B58 has not bested the N54. Can I swap to an S58? As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. On an e90, Everything is dearer. Anyone know if they offer the build kit for us to build the trans ourselves? It would be a pure race car build at that point, which, if you're doing such a thing, is a heavy chassic and poor choice for a race car anyway. High capacity 5 1/2" deep front sump design with side kick outs for maximum oil capacity 1/2" thick CNC machined 6061 Billet Aluminum Flange and back plate Machined gasket surface to ensure no gasket leaks Rigid design like the OEM GM pan to ensure maximum strength and durability I think SC_B5X was pushing around 650whp? G30Model Year: 2017 + . I'm not dead set on an E90, I'm dead set on a E92, E90 - has 4 doors E92 - has 2 doors E93 - convertible. Ok saying that the N54 is german 2jz is wrong as the 2JZ-GTE is actually German LOL. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. This replacement charge pipe features all-aluminum construction, high-quality glossy black finish, CNC machined flanges, 2 optional 1/8" NPT methanol bungs, OEM style mounting hardware for a direct fit, and a lifetime warranty. Is it worth it? Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. Waste of time and money. Also, this is going to be a 5 figure cost swap. Bimmerpost Model Selection. I am just curious if it would be possible to engine swap a 2008 E92 320i with the more modern turbo N20/B48 engine. Where else to find out about the problems with such a replacement for X-drive. Can pwg parts be swapped over to ewg engine, Cts turbo xdrive lowering spring set **new product**, New here! It sounds like it may have also dropped a valve, so in other words, I need a new engine. $1,601.00. Now this is interesting. I'm sure it'd still be a nightmare but less of a nightmare than a b58 swap. No need for a b58. Tags 320i e90 e92 engine swap n20. Allows for less friction for a quicker revving engine at the cost of cylinder strength. Read up on the N20 timing chain failures; one of the worst engines ever designed, IMO. There will be a problem with the driveshafts, from which they will fit, the transfer case itself also differs in the year of manufacture, despite the same model ACL35, perhaps something else will go crooked)). The BMS Elite is the highest quality B58 charge pipe upgrade on the market. Yes it was done to the T at the end but only because the parts were outsourced dead cheap and it still cost the person $10k with everything. F90Model Year: 2018 + Previous Generations; . We uploaded the update 10 minutes ago! M4. Great to know about the Pure transmissions. On top of that because it's a closed deck the cylinder walls aremy as well cooled as the N54 and that will only expedite the failure. Sum of all the parts worth way more than what a used 335i is worth. Until tuning gets WAY further down the line, no one is going to be making big power on these motors without. I have done this conversion on my own e91 320 lci since finding an lci e91 n54 proved very difficult and I find non lci rather dated in comparison. Silly question, but is this a comparable upgrade to the likes of the new pure drivetrain solutions 8hp50 transmission? Buy it. This would be a very cool swap but doesn't seem worth it at all. 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 | 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold SKU FR-TM-A90-B58-T4 Maximize Power and Spool with the 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold NEED HELP? so decided to swap a B58 into it. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. 2023 X3 M40i | 2018 M3 Comp - Sold | 2017 340i - Sold | 2014 328i - Sold, I'd love to have the f8x chassis with s58 and dct and maybe g8x suspension. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. The N55 is a pretty solid engine. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Handicap friendly. N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications, https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh.php?t=1548060. I have a 2003 530i and my dad and I have recently started looking at options for an upgrade. I'm surprised by the flywheel picture. recently blew up my stock HP50 transmission in my 340i. I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get . It may not display this or other websites correctly. JavaScript is disabled. Therefor you need to buy an N57 flywheel, luckily these can be found cheap on eBay ($50-$100 from overseas, or . Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > Australia > BMW E90 320i engine swap to 335i. Find a 335i with the parts you want. VS - Stage 3 (E Series N54/N55) Rev 3 . You have to run Meth to break 400whp, correct? E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) N20/B48 swap 2008 E92 320i. What do you mean it's bot sleeved? according to leebmann24 , 89 kg for the 70 and 81 kg for the 50, great writewe need more these kind of write ups on the forum, The F20 was never equipped with an HP70 at the factory, unlike the F30 and the like. Held rain or shine. so i want to do an engine swap and get the b58 on my 428i! Regular price $49.95 View. ! I remember Terry saying somewhere that the factory fueling is capped at right around 400 whp and the only way around it is TBI, PI, Meth, etc. Rather than swap in a stock transmission I went ahead and did an HP70 swap out of a diesel 430d. Its not worth it at all. Do you know if there's any chasis differences when it comes to the 335i and 328i? Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. So if everything is stock, I'd bet on the B58 over the N54/N55. It's not even sleeved. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year: 2012 - 2018. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Not worth it at all. Any challenges you had because the 320 body? [prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread] List: xen-devel Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Booting signed xen.efi through shim From: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas tklengyel ! I have a 2011 E90 335i that just spun a rod bearing. Still saving up for the car itself. Meaning I don't think it will hold up well at 600whp+ power levels. Appreciate 0 Quote 04-23-2022, 05:40 PM #5: turnsignalslol. Reliability + performance. 75. EDIT: Why not just go with the n54, do a full engine out service and get it working like new again with some aftermarket turbos? Built by KK-Performance. Read up on the N20 timing chain failures; one of the worst engines ever designed, IMO. Stock B58 Flywheel wont fit, it'll rub against the starter. That is impressive! However, they only offer products for 2013+ N55 engines. Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Former Technician // E90 335D // G20 330i, BMW Lvl 1 Master Technician, HV Specialist, Gen 5 Certified. N55 engine swap into E36 BMW cheap and easy DIY - YouTube 0:00 / 1:29:01 N55 engine swap into E36 BMW cheap and easy DIY HakenE30 1.38K subscribers Subscribe 757 Share Save 31K views 1 year. BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i), 135i Turbo Engine (N54 / N55), Exhaust and Drivetrain Modifications, https://view.imirus.com/290/document/13379/page/28. It'll require all wiring, DME, trans and all assoc computers steering, then all interior tech to match too such as cluster AC radio etc. Fettled M135i EB AT - gone but not forgotten: N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. With a standalone engine management system that is B58 capable, sure. Shipping: A friend of mine I chat with down at rk tunes sent this screenshot to me after it was sent to him. Except the M2 is actually a very nice looking car. Not when 335is are as cheap as they are. I replaced it with an M3 (e90). 4. N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. We in North America do not know the E87 nor the N46 so we likely can't be of much help. You must log in or register to reply here. Mine was a 6-speed. Same with the flywheel as mentioned above. Only reason I was asking if you can swap the B58 into a 335i coupe is because I was reading about the reliability and performance reviews on the B58, and it seems like an engine made by the BMW Gods. Everything should bolt up to the 435 correct? I can't tell you for sure, but there are a couple of guys on IG who have S55 swapped an F31. 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